completely off the table. medicare don't touch it. medicaid, do ent touch it. in fact, paul ryan did work with alice rivlin on something like proposed for medicare and left out of the final proposal. if you're going to tackle it, tackle it all at once, because, again, you have to worry about the setup, oh, tax reform and we do end up raising tax revenue, but then they end up not doing anything about the looming true monsters that are on the horizon for the country. >> neil: adam? >> neil, i think you put paul ryan on the hot seat and he adequately squirmed out of it. if you're in a boat and the boat is sinking and someone hands you a bucket, no, thank you, i don't need that bucket i'm trying to get the bucket over here. you take the bucket and start bailing and work on the problem after that. >> neil: the fact that the president saw the bucket and just didn't even look at the bucket, but turned an i way from the bucket, is any less-- >> no, i totally agree, as critical of the president ignoring the advice he got from his own commission and critical of ryan not being willing to-- i wasn't
